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		<title>Comment on Outfit of the Day: You&#8217;re so vain, you probably think this body is about you by Emily Maynard (@emelina)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emily Maynard (@emelina)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 18:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, I finally read this and I LOVE IT. In my stint as a Personal Fashion Stylist, I learned a lot about how to do the whole attractive/minimizing/sculpting thing for clients with vastly different body types. Sometimes it was what they wanted, and I&#039;m proud of the assistance I offered. I saw men and women embrace who they are.

But through feminisms, and stories like yours, I cringe now at some of the words and ideas I offered. I tried to always emphasized self-love, encouraging my clients to choose clothes they liked, understand why they liked it (so they could wear/buy more of the things they liked!), and the complexities of beauty. But I still wonder what shame my words added and what cultural &quot;acceptable body&quot; standards I enforced.

Thanks for exploring this issue. I have a lot to learn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I finally read this and I LOVE IT. In my stint as a Personal Fashion Stylist, I learned a lot about how to do the whole attractive/minimizing/sculpting thing for clients with vastly different body types. Sometimes it was what they wanted, and I&#8217;m proud of the assistance I offered. I saw men and women embrace who they are.</p>
<p>But through feminisms, and stories like yours, I cringe now at some of the words and ideas I offered. I tried to always emphasized self-love, encouraging my clients to choose clothes they liked, understand why they liked it (so they could wear/buy more of the things they liked!), and the complexities of beauty. But I still wonder what shame my words added and what cultural &#8220;acceptable body&#8221; standards I enforced.</p>
<p>Thanks for exploring this issue. I have a lot to learn.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reading Real Marriage, Chapter 3: Fake Jesus, Real Man by Tina Schrader</title>
		<link>http://adiposerex.wordpress.com/2013/04/06/reading-real-marriage-chapter-3-fake-jesus-real-man/#comment-231</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina Schrader]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Apr 2013 02:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My husband loves listening to Driscoll&#039;s podcasts and YouTube videos. He is forever checking out the Mars Hill website. He is buying Driscoll&#039;s books. And every time he mentions his name, the hairs on the back of my neck stand up and I can never figure out why. There is something....not right but I can&#039;t put my finger on it. Your post is the first time I have felt like I&#039;m figuring out that thing. 

I saw this book in the bookstore and tried flipping to a page to see what it was about. I made it 2 sentences and had to put it down. Thank you for writing what you do. I found your blog through a link on Pinterest and have been reading many of your previous posts. I can already tell I&#039;m going to love the rest of your writing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband loves listening to Driscoll&#8217;s podcasts and YouTube videos. He is forever checking out the Mars Hill website. He is buying Driscoll&#8217;s books. And every time he mentions his name, the hairs on the back of my neck stand up and I can never figure out why. There is something&#8230;.not right but I can&#8217;t put my finger on it. Your post is the first time I have felt like I&#8217;m figuring out that thing. </p>
<p>I saw this book in the bookstore and tried flipping to a page to see what it was about. I made it 2 sentences and had to put it down. Thank you for writing what you do. I found your blog through a link on Pinterest and have been reading many of your previous posts. I can already tell I&#8217;m going to love the rest of your writing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Two things about stories by Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your writing always touches me in ways I don&#039;t expect. (You&#039;d think after all this time, I would start to expect the unexpected.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your writing always touches me in ways I don&#8217;t expect. (You&#8217;d think after all this time, I would start to expect the unexpected.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Two things about stories by Paula Jordan</title>
		<link>http://adiposerex.wordpress.com/2013/04/11/two-things-about-stories/#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paula Jordan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well said, Abi, and so true!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Abi, and so true!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Two things about stories by abi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[abi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2013 13:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, JB. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, JB. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Two things about stories by jennybethjordan</title>
		<link>http://adiposerex.wordpress.com/2013/04/11/two-things-about-stories/#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jennybethjordan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2013 13:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beautiful, Abi. So beautiful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful, Abi. So beautiful.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reading Real Marriage, Chapter 3: Fake Jesus, Real Man by Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2013 14:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Abi, this man frightens me. I can&#039;t believe you managed to read three chapters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abi, this man frightens me. I can&#8217;t believe you managed to read three chapters.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reading Real Marriage, Chapter 3: Fake Jesus, Real Man by Aaron Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 04:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a very hard time being gracious to this kind of theology. Unfortionatly, that means that I am less than gracious toward people who spout this theology.

It kills me though that the teaching/way of thinking so easily becomes toxic attitudes hidden under spiritual talk. It makes my heart hurt for the church.

Even so, Come Lord Jesus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a very hard time being gracious to this kind of theology. Unfortionatly, that means that I am less than gracious toward people who spout this theology.</p>
<p>It kills me though that the teaching/way of thinking so easily becomes toxic attitudes hidden under spiritual talk. It makes my heart hurt for the church.</p>
<p>Even so, Come Lord Jesus.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pastoral Premarriage Counseling and Sex: Incentive to Lie by abi</title>
		<link>http://adiposerex.wordpress.com/2013/03/23/pastoral-premarriage-counseling-and-sex-incentive-to-lie/#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[abi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 16:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I meant to also say - thank you for reading my blog and wanting to engage in a discussion about it, and I love you, too. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to also say &#8211; thank you for reading my blog and wanting to engage in a discussion about it, and I love you, too. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Pastoral Premarriage Counseling and Sex: Incentive to Lie by abi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[abi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your comment, Dena. I understand where you&#039;re coming from; and yes, it would certainly be a better decision for couples to both stop living sinfully and to be honest with their pastor. But for churches and pastors to expect that this will be the case, while also setting up a major disincentive for the couple to be honest if they either choose to, or believe they can&#039;t, stop sleeping together, severely limits the effectiveness of premarriage counseling. People don&#039;t always make good decisions, especially in complicated matters like sex. (And something like &lt;a href=&quot;http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/27/why-young-christians-arent-waiting-anymore/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;eighty percent&lt;/a&gt; of evangelical Christians have premarital sex; this isn&#039;t a small number of unmarried couples we&#039;re talking about here, but the vast majority of them.) But when the church puts them in a position where they create a major disincentive for couples to be honest in their premarriage counseling, it significantly limits the effectiveness of what can be a very important tool in helping newlyweds start a healthy life together. 

And here&#039;s the thing: churches who lay out this kind of ultimatum -- &lt;i&gt;stop having sex, or you can&#039;t get married here&lt;/i&gt; -- are really telling couples, &lt;i&gt;We value purity and adherence to the Law more than we value helping you to establish a healthy marriage.&lt;/i&gt; They are implying that God is more concerned with His children not sinning than with helping them to have maturity and growth. And while those two things are certainly not mutually exclusive, the second is much bigger than the first; and the focus on the first rather than the second is the same focus on legalism over love that Jesus came to undo. 

So, I think that a church that is truly committed to developing and supporting healthy marriages will take rules like &lt;i&gt;stop having sex, or you can&#039;t get married here&lt;/i&gt; off the table and cultivate a premarriage counseling program that meets engaged couples where they are and works &lt;i&gt;with&lt;/i&gt; them to help them make good decisions; or, if they cannot reconcile that with their commitment to sexual purity, sponsoring sessions for the couple with a trained professional Christian counselor who can work through issues with the couple while also maintaining complete confidentiality. The expectation of confidentiality and the absence of rule-enforcement means that couples will be much more likely to be honest with their counselor, and that the counselor will be much more able to help them put into practice healthy behaviors -- including premarital abstinence -- to establish a solid foundation for marriage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, Dena. I understand where you&#8217;re coming from; and yes, it would certainly be a better decision for couples to both stop living sinfully and to be honest with their pastor. But for churches and pastors to expect that this will be the case, while also setting up a major disincentive for the couple to be honest if they either choose to, or believe they can&#8217;t, stop sleeping together, severely limits the effectiveness of premarriage counseling. People don&#8217;t always make good decisions, especially in complicated matters like sex. (And something like <a href="http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/27/why-young-christians-arent-waiting-anymore/" rel="nofollow">eighty percent</a> of evangelical Christians have premarital sex; this isn&#8217;t a small number of unmarried couples we&#8217;re talking about here, but the vast majority of them.) But when the church puts them in a position where they create a major disincentive for couples to be honest in their premarriage counseling, it significantly limits the effectiveness of what can be a very important tool in helping newlyweds start a healthy life together. </p>
<p>And here&#8217;s the thing: churches who lay out this kind of ultimatum &#8212; <i>stop having sex, or you can&#8217;t get married here</i> &#8212; are really telling couples, <i>We value purity and adherence to the Law more than we value helping you to establish a healthy marriage.</i> They are implying that God is more concerned with His children not sinning than with helping them to have maturity and growth. And while those two things are certainly not mutually exclusive, the second is much bigger than the first; and the focus on the first rather than the second is the same focus on legalism over love that Jesus came to undo. </p>
<p>So, I think that a church that is truly committed to developing and supporting healthy marriages will take rules like <i>stop having sex, or you can&#8217;t get married here</i> off the table and cultivate a premarriage counseling program that meets engaged couples where they are and works <i>with</i> them to help them make good decisions; or, if they cannot reconcile that with their commitment to sexual purity, sponsoring sessions for the couple with a trained professional Christian counselor who can work through issues with the couple while also maintaining complete confidentiality. The expectation of confidentiality and the absence of rule-enforcement means that couples will be much more likely to be honest with their counselor, and that the counselor will be much more able to help them put into practice healthy behaviors &#8212; including premarital abstinence &#8212; to establish a solid foundation for marriage.</p>
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